will these republicans be help to president obama's fight for immigration and gun laws. for more on that we have two of our favorite democratic strategists, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus, and karen skelton. she worked in the clinton white house and on the gore campaign and has her own strategy firm. thank you guys for coming in. >> our pleasure. >> jennifer: i was saying before i really wish we had a glass of wine, we could talk about this. karen what do you think about the efforts of the republicans to rebrand themselves? >> you -- you can be modern but when your policy is that birth control is about putting an aspirin between your knees it's not going to cut it. >> jennifer: but the new republican party is going to be what? pro birth control? >> well you mentioned immigration, they need that to win. and romney got 20% less of the latino votehaha bush didi thth h heo f f thatha oblem, and thth a a going to have to go after it. >> jennifer: and i think we should take it even if it's for the wrong reason. will rebranding help in other areas? it d